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  • posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk Thread
    Quote from Azrael »
    Council, shall we see where we stand?

    I'd vote in favor of reinstituting the speciality queue, with the requirement that a first draft of the setup be reviewed prior to entry.
    I’m in favor, though I think we’d need to talk about the specifics of how the specialty queue and FTQ will interact.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Signups - rock paper scissors mafia - ONE SLOT LEFT
    !!!!
    /in!!!
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk Thread
    Christmas season from what I’ve seen has been notorious for people being “too busy” for Mafia in general, but I do think we should try to get something special ready to kick off for the new year to entice people in/back.

    The team Mafia event was overall good, but didn’t seem to draw in more people. Granted, I’ve seen some newer faces in the current signup/games, so that’s helpful. I’m going to try and brainstorm some possible ways to bring some more traffic over here.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Signups - rock paper scissors mafia - ONE SLOT LEFT
    Quote from Rumanshi »
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from Rumanshi »
    /in
    riku is your other name?
    (I'm mobile only I haven't seen a sig in years)

    Yes.

    Ed: Thats impressive. I dont think I could host on mobile tbh.
    It's not actually as difficult as it looks, but there are definitely some tricks.

    /spectate
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk Thread
    Quote from Azrael »
    We're pleased to announce the additions of shadow and silver to the council. Welcome aboard, gents.
    Thanks! Looking forward to it!
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Unreliable Cops: day 3 - walking the beat
    Wish I could have played, but it was fun to watch. I was happy to see both meteor and GJ as cops again, made me laugh. Definitely hope we all play when this runs again.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Mafia Hosting Sign-Ups & Hosting Rules
    Oh, I forgot to update this; Playstation Battle Royale ended in a Mafia victory.

    Tubba Fett, Fuwa, and D_V were replaced; Ganderin_Dan voluntarily replaced out due to outside factors in another game influencing his alignment knowledge of another player. Kpaca and Lastwhisper were modkilled.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Banned Mafia - SIGNUPS CLOSED! Still accepting replacements ;)
    Gosh darn it to want to play in this. Bah, stupid life being in my way.

    Playerbase looks pretty great.
    Posted in: Old Sign-ups
  • posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk Thread
    I would also be interested.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    Quote from 864 »
    A modkill for the beeboy slot, while on the table, is trying to be avoided at all costs. It will come no later than start of Day 2.

    Quote from D_V »
    Stop saying modkill on the slot was imminent. From a player perspective it appeared that he was going to be replaced again. Go read the thread instead of just looking at the VC and saying he got lynched.
    It *was* imminent. Not when you replaced out, no, it wasn't, but when he was lynched? It absolutely was. The game as a whole hard lynched him from 3 votes after we said we would modkill him at the start of Day 2 at the latest. There was a conscious choice on the part of every single player in that game to not try to derail the wagon and either allow a potential replacement to post for the slot or allow the modkill to happen.


    First I want to say that I don't agree with how DV is handling the situation. It is unnecessarily hostile, but his arguments are good.

    These two quotes are complete opposites. Greater or equal to is not the same as lower or equal to.

    Also I want people replaced if they don't respond to their first prod in 24 hours. 6 days for force replacements is absurd. Considering 2 weeks deadline a slot could post 3 post and still be in the game by day 3. That is absolutely not ok.
    "A modkill...will come no later than start of day 2"

    Literally the slot was not going to be in day 2. That is the definition of "imminent" from that stage in the game.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    Quote from D_V »
    And Eco saying that he doesn't agree with me on that but providing no reasons is my point. Its just insulting to the players. You don't value or time or effort and he's right I won't play in a game of his again, because he truthfully doesn't care about the players.
    Full stop, this kind of statement is unacceptable. You have whatever gripe you want about what went down, but flat out saying that Eco, who has demonstrated on countless occasions commitment to this playerbase, doesn't care about players is wrong, and betrays a bitter mindset. There is obviously discussion to be had, but you lose any high ground or indeed any ground to stand on with this line of thinking. You don't have to like Eco, or anyone, but you do not get to come in here and attack anyone like that when it's so clearly untrue.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    @DV: I was primarily speaking to Vez's most recent posts and Osie's agreement; but yeah, it sucks with how thing happened. Specifically my game, saying we benefitted from someone exploiting the lurking/VLA policy is basically the opposite of what happened; as far as I am concerned, Nancy's actions (regardless of reason or legitimacy) ruined my game and wrecked what should have been a winnable game. I'm not happy that she didn't post, I'm not thrilled she wasn't replaced, but I can follow the logic of how it got there with reasonable moderating. Would I have made the same decisions? I don't know. But I don't think anyone here is saying "this behavior is okay," so much as saying, "the circumstances here were not cut and dry and we made the calls we made for a reason." Maybe that's me giving too much credit, maybe I'm giving too much benefit of the doubt; but I fundamentally think the mods of this event had the collective best interests of the players in mind. Even (for the sake of argument) granting the premise that there were bad moderation done on the whole, I don't think it's fair to attribute any of it to malice.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    I’m just gonna throw this out here, modkills should be a rare last resort solution. Lurking sucks, but it’s our job as players to deal with it when it falls within the rules. Should the rules be more stringent? Maybe. But they weren’t, and they were pretty standard fare for mtgs games. Day 1 should virtually never have a modkill of any slot; exceptions being game breaking play or something similar that damages the slot and requires it to be removed.

    Continuing to insist that modkills should be more prevalent will ultimately lead to games that aren’t fun and don’t actually count as Mafia. I call bull crap on the idea that you guys are okay with a day one LyLo, and if you truly prefer that, I’m thankful that you seem to be in the minority, because that doesn’t sound fun and would deincentivize joining games here. Game health does matter, it directly impacts how fun a game is.

    I don’t agree that everything done by the mods was done to perfection, but Silver and eco have adequately hilighted the shortcomings; they are aware of mistakes made and timing that could have been better.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Not much you can do about scum seeing an opportunity for towncred and yoinking it.

    Only way to double check is to see if your other townreads hold up.
    And ask yourself (yourself, not publicly where it’s bound to get WIFOM’d) “why is the hard cleared person still alive?” Sometimes it’s for the wifom, but always got to check.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Team Mafia 2018 - Rules & Post Game Discussion
    To specifically speak to the modkills, Regardless of what Nancy did or anything surrounding that situation, Gemma bringing it up and referencing games from another site as a way to generate a read is wildly not okay from a game integrity standpoint, and certainly warranted action. I can understand where it comes from; basically breaking the game wide open certainly had to be exciting, but it should be apparent that using that really isn’t how this game is designed to be played.
    Posted in: Mafia
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