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  • posted a message on MTG: Puzzle Quest
    Trust me, Gideon was that good--he's the only walker I run, though I've only got him at level 30 so far. His abilities are bonkers and he has access to one of the best disablers (Suppression Bonds). Being able lock down your opponent while consistently popping Call to arms (his second ability, permanent pump of all your creatures) and Champion (gives a creature a massive permanent pump and Berserk, higher levels add more keyword abilities) was brutal. They increased the cost of all three of his abilities significantly, so I'll have to see whether it's enough to make me switch.
    Posted in: Mobile Apps
  • posted a message on BFZ and Gatewatch redone/changed. How would you do it? (SPOILERS for Oathwatch story)
    This is not the place for fan fiction. Storyline is for discussion of canon Magic lore only. If you wish to write your own version of a Magic story, that's what the Personal Writing subforum is for.

    Thread locked.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on The Archive has fallen - where shall we start a new one?
    Yeah, rehosting someone else's content without permission is at best plagarism.

    This is just a temporary outage anyway. You'll notice it's not just old lore content that's 404-ing right now; the Reserve List explanation is missing, event coverage is missing, etc. They're transitioning to a new website format and haven't gotten all the URLs redirected yet. Nothing to freak out over.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Reserved List pulled from Mothership Site?
    Most of their archived content from the old version of the website is offline while they try to get the redirects set up on the new site. You get the same thing trying to go to old Uncharted Realms articles etc.
    Posted in: Rumor Mill Archive
  • posted a message on The Archive has fallen - where shall we start a new one?
    Trick has already stated on his twitter that they're aware of the problem and are fixing the redirects now. In the meantime, we have a wiki that summarizes most of that information. We don't need a place to host all of the files directly from Wizards. That's a copyright violation.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Wiki Helpdesk
    Welcome to the Wiki Helpdesk!

    The purpose of this thread is for you to have a general place to post and discuss this particular subforum and its rules and structure.

    Think of this as somewhere to ask MTG Salvation staff for help on the forum side of the wiki. It's not the place to discuss wiki policies or get help with problems on the wiki itself.

    This thread will not be heavily moderated, but as always, keep your posts civil and on topic.

    Thanks!
    -Your Wiki moderators
    Posted in: Wiki
  • posted a message on Colosseum Helpdesk Thread
    Welcome to the Colo Helpdesk!

    The purpose of this thread is for you to have a general place to post and discuss this particular subforum and its rules and structure. It's also the perfect place to post feedback or suggestions about anything relating to the Colo community.

    However, this thread is not for complaining about a warning you've received and disagree with - if you want to appeal a warning, please contact the relevant Moderator as outlined in this announcement.

    This thread will not be heavily moderated, but as always, keep your posts civil and on topic.

    Thanks!
    -Your Colo moderators
    Posted in: The Colosseum
  • posted a message on Which major characters don't have cards?
    Focusing on Brothers' War:

    I think Tawnos is pure blue mana .

    I'd love to have seen Kaya with a card, most likely in white mana .

    Tocasia, also, as either straight blue mana or blue mana white mana . Mechanically I think Tocasia would be interesting, but mostly because of how much of Urza's pre-spark character was shaped by her influence and training. I'd argue that Urza's white comes from growing up under her tutelage. Urza was always closer to her, where Mishra was closer to the desert people (and I think that's where a lot of his red comes from).
    Posted in: Storyline Speculation
  • posted a message on The Front Page
    Second what Sene said about those templates; I think we can safely archive them away.

    As to the front page, I think it's a great idea to try and improve it. Seconding Corv's proposals of introducing featured article criteria and setting up links to the portal pages. With the featured article criteria, that will go a long way to giving us rotating content for the front page as we can select new featured articles at set intervals. I think also adding rotating news highlight will help making the front page better as well, because we'll have a constant stream of fresh content.
    Posted in: Wiki
  • posted a message on Zendikar Art Book Discussion
    Finally got my copy yesterday but I haven't gotten to read it in depth yet. I do want to say that the cover is spectacular.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Magic Story Discussion: Magic Origins and Battle for Zendikar Block
    Quote from Gutterstorm »
    I'm not one to think highly of people but the MtG subset tends to be, at least to some reasonable amount, intelligent.
    ...have you read some of the posts in this forum? I long ago gave up thinking Magic was the pastime of best and brightest. Wink

    Personally, I think this change is for the best. Yes, it's a dry and flavorless name, but if you take a player who's never been exposed to the WotC website, handed them a mouse, and said "find the story of Magic" they wouldn't go "oh, Uncharted Realms sounds like where they would keep the fiction." They're going to see a bunch of columns, none of which have the word story in the name, and get confused. There's a fine line between flavorful naming and obfuscation.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on What do people WANT from the story?
    Quote from Bhogal83 »
    I don't think calling us "entitled" is helping your argument, kaburi.
    You're absolutely right. That was a poor word choice. I was trying to find a word that was more serious than "enfranchised", and I didn't think about the connotations. I was going for "emotionally invested". Slant
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on What do people WANT from the story?
    I don't see where the current storyline is any different than the past. The Weatherlight Saga, for example, ends with the defeat of Phyrexia and the saving of Dominaria.

    They didn't blow up the world the last time we had an apocalypse.

    The SET was called Apocalypse and they didn't blow up the world.

    There's a difference between taking narrative risks and being dark for the sake of dark. I get the impression people are upset that Zendikar isn't being destroyed because if Zendikar lives we get a happy ending, and happy endings aren't cool. I want Zendikar to not be destroyed. I like Zendikar. I want our heroes to win.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on What do people WANT from the story?
    I think the biggest problem is that people don't give the story the chance it needs. Part of this is because of the current storytelling model being so different than what we've been used to in the past. We're getting snippets of crucial story moments now, during preview weeks, yet we won't know the full story until the last UR goes up a couple of weeks after the set releases. People are judging the plot based on these tiny glimpses and summaries of summaries, and when these plot summaries aren't what they want they get angry.

    It'd be like watching the Star Wars trailer and deciding that because those moments in the trailer weren't exactly the ending you wanted you aren't going to see the movie. The trailer isn't supposed to have the plot of the entire movie, just enough key moments to draw you in. We're seeing key story moments out of order and out of context (the Oaths, Fall of the Titans), which is causing people to come to conclusions about the story without having actually experienced it.

    It's an adjustment in expectations on the part of the audience that hyper-invested enfranchised people on the internet aren't willing to make because of the nature of being an enfranchised entitled internet person. Shrugs

    With Oath of the Gatewatch specifically, Creative is setting up the Gatewatch to be the multiversal Avengers. For this to happen, there has to be a threat exists large enough that these people (who other than Gideon suck in the teamwork department) decide they need to work together. As Creative set up the Eldrazi as that threat, there are only two outcomes that lead to the Avengers Assemble! moment: Zendikar is destroyed and the titans move on (and it's not likely that WotC would destroy one of their most popular worlds) or the 'walkers manage to drive the Eldrazi off (which is a terrible thing because they saved Zendikar at the expense of the multiverse, but makes the most sense for the narrative). I fully expect Ugin to show up, call out the younger 'walkers for being idiots and freeing the Titans back into the Eternities, and tell them they have to clean up this mess (hence they swear their respective oaths)*.

    From a narrative standpoint, the only way to have the Gatewatch formed is for there to still be a looming threat. You can't have the Superfriends if there's not some reason for them to join forces.


    *Or, say they actually do destroy Ulamog and Kozilek, utterly and completely. We still don't know what the actual role(s) of the Eldrazi are in the greater ecosystem of the multiverse, so Ugin still shows up to call out the younger 'walkers because now they've damaged some fundamental function of existence, and he tells them they have to clean up this mess (hence they swear their respective oaths). This is the new looming threat.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Possible (Fanon) Adventures of the Lorwyn Five
    Please do not post fan fiction or fanon in Storyline. This forum is for the discussion of official Magic story information only. If you would like to write your own Magic fan fiction, the Personal Writing subforum is the appropriate venue.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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