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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    @Everyone: I know this is slightly fishing, but I think it’s valuable to figuring out the game so I’m going to ask anyway, if you have a targeting ability that wasn’t redirected can you please say so (only one person please) so that we can determine if it was a mass redirect or just a multi targeted one.
    I don't think this is important, we've had three people claim that they were redirected, that's enough. Do you think the NK was redirected as well?
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Did anybody habe problems targeting last night? I think joe might have slipped.

    unvote vote Terry
    Shadow and DV both said they were redirected also, but my PM specifically attributes it to the Kraken. I'm kind of thinking it was a one-shot activated during the day, most likely by Davy Jones if flavor has anything to do with it. I'm pretty sure that was Az.

    VOTE: Az
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Well I was sort waiting for him to keep going but everyone stepping all over that and telling him exactly what he needs to say...

    Dota blew in here trying to cause damage. It's not confused town working in. There's no "wtf iso no flips" there's no look at how his slot's been treated which is, like, where you start replacing in for lurker town?

    So... Yeah I think there's a decent chance he's just that scum wind trying to do some damage with a "weakened" slot.


    HOWEVER
    I've seen dota trying to be a town leader. He blew strong in Russian roulette especially. Could have seen that as a start to a session that's includes a wider view of the whole.
    But looking less likely after dropping that and leaving.

    unvote
    Vote: dotarchon


    Impress me
    Russian roulette was a gimmick game, but his approach to that game was definitely a larger view than he presented here.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Hiding flips isn't pro-neutral. It's only pro-scum.

    And AZ at this point is probably just neutral (or scum with rodemy, who seems town to me)

    Idk if the kraken is related to the lack of flips. But it's the biggest worry for me rather than the kraken, and I'm hoping that there's someone to lynch to make it stop.

    And if az is scum he's probably not that person based on claim. I think?

    This post did nothing for me or anyone. Lynch scummy people. Technically that's not AZ.


    .. iso made it pretty clear that it's the kraken that is preventing the flips. You aren't that dumb, tom.
    Sorry, it was my impression that the Kraken messed with the targeting not the flips. Where did ISO say it had to do with the flips?
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    @Terry: Same question to you as to AE, do you think the argument that Nancy posted very little actually holds water as a counter to Dota’s point on AE?
    Well I think I'm so biased against the Nancy Drew slot that when Dota comes in and picks out the lowest hanging fruit and tries to push a case on him it makes my eyes kind of glaze over. It literally looked like Dota came in and picked the person with the next fewest posts and tried to do a PbP analysis to look busy. I'll definitely re-read AME, but my reaction to Dota was:

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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from DoTArchon »
    Never got to RVS so Vote: KamikazeArchon for sharing a part of my name! :p

    Unvote

    First off, we're not lynching Az, unless there is damn solid reasoning to do so. "Lol Neutral" is not a solid reason. Especially since Rodemy has confirmed the existence of a neutral in this game. "But who says Rodemy is town?" I do. I've just finished a game with scum Rod and there is a MASSIVE difference in tone/behaviour compared. I might be wrong (Lord knows I have been often enough in the past) but for now I see no reason to doubt his claim.

    Secondly, @Az, two questions:
    1) How would you compare your approach here to the approach you took in Mind Screw?
    2) Why Rodemy?

    Third, everyone should go and read the 17 posts made by Archmage Eternal. He has done nothing constructive in this game:
    Day 1
    Post 1 - Accuses KA of fear mongering. Never goes further into this. Also mentions a flaw in KA's reasoning but never points out what it is. Confusing reponse to Shadow voting Az and not wanting a neutral to survive past day 1.
    Post 2 - Responds to Vezok voting for Az, then votes for Rodemy for voting for Az with a one word explanation: "Horrible".
    Post 3 - Asks Terry about Grapefruit. Never follows up on this.
    Post 4 - Filler
    Post 5 - Tells Vezok to forget Az and look elsewhere. That is all.
    Post 6 - Asks Az to vote for Rodemy, also willing to vote for Vezok.
    Post 7 - Catchup promise after 3 days absent. Will give benefit of doubt though, came down with flu.
    Post 8 - Basic explanation to Tom about whyvote is on Rodemy. Wonders why Rod not in claim range yet.
    Post 9 - Quotes DBS and shades them for voting for him, when he was bottom of DBS townlean pile. DBS explains the vote in the quoted posts though. First time DBS is mentioned at all by AE, never engaged with them while they were both voting for Rod.
    Post 10 - Asks DBS a question about something they said about AE/Rod, never follows up on this despite DBS responding to the question. Asks if DBS thinks Rod is scum, even though DBS had made several posts about Rod and had him at the bottom of their T/S list.
    Post 11 - Questions Kazin's townread of him. Responds to Rodemy's argument with Vezok with a flawed statement
    Post 12 - Moves vote from Rodemy to DBS to join wagon, expresses townread of tom as reason. Quotes a votecount instead of tom's reasoning for voting there. Fifth on the wagon, requires eight to lynch. No further posts on day 1, DBS is lynch.
    Day 2
    Post 13 - Speculates DBS(dead) and Rhand(dead) roles, hints at Rhand being the NK for soft counterclaiming DBS. Accuses Kazin of fear mongering. Asks about Kazin's role despite the answer being right there in the quoted post.
    Post 14 - Quotes two posts of Rhand's. The first is Rhand wanting to look into the same players that Terry does (Nancy/Nobue/Vezok) and the second is Rhand saying he believes DBS's claim. Inexplicably cuts out the part of the quote that gives it context though. Asks general question about number of Town/Scum/Neutrals. Rodemy had claimed census role by this point.
    Post15 - "Don't lynch Az because Neutral"
    Post 16 - Admits to having missed Rodemy's post about the faction numbers, but asks if it's speculation instead of going back to read the posts himself.
    Post 17 - Hints at PR by asking Az to target him with soul-steal, "should have thought of this Day 1"


    So not only have they done nothing remotely resembling scumhunting, but every vote they have made or opinion expressed on a player has been setup in such a way as to be able to say, "Oh but X player was also saying this..." Apart from the initial Rodemy vote that was never really delved into.

    Vote: Archmage Eternal
    Welcome to the Ship.. Now you just posted a case on AME based on the observation that he did nothing in his 17 posts. Well my friend, Nancy Drew did less than that. And why are we not lynching Az? He does nothing to help our wincon and if anything he makes us lose.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from tomsloger »
    I, too, have been scum with Joe. We won even.
    And yes I agree he's... solving... here.

    But the crux of it is not the meta, but the concern with appearing town rather than just doing what he does.
    Theres no reason I even need to address this right now but I will anyway. I shift my meta as scum and intentionally making mimic some aspects (see the early list I did in prison block which was done 100% to mimic when I did it as town when hydraing with grape), but I’m not scum this game so it doesn’t really matter. I hate being scum and tend to have more fun being town. I blew my load on prison block and am a bit burnt out. So you get laid back, just cruising having fun Town Terry this game. I hope you enjoy.

    @vezo: talk to me about what we learn from the dbs lynch
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Hey Az, is that Kraken yours?
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Wait, did Rod just claim cephalopodomaniac that tries to hump squids!?

    This feels like Joe trying to replicate zero escape Joe and very lightly failing at it?

    Maybe?

    That might be stupid...

    Shrugs

    vote: stinkyjoeterry
    Youre kind of right, because I was replicating zero, but it was to make fun of myself in an attempt at humor. Sorry I failed you.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Vote Azreal

    Probably controls the kraken.

    Also stole my soul last night.

    Pretty sure he is lying about his wincon. Just, can we kill. Please?
    What makes you think the bolded?

    I was redirected last night. I was told specifically because of fear of the Kraken -_-


    Oh it is total flavorgaming at this point.
    )


    Davy Jones controlled the Kraken in POTC.

    We need to **** the **** outta this kraken (Which i tried last night. Got my soul stolen instead :/)

    Who did you target?

    Are you claiming Vig that attempted to shoot at Az? Cause that’s what it sounds like you are claiming. Probably you shouldn’t say either way unless you have pertinent info, but I have a theory :thinking:


    No, shadow, you don't understand.

    I LITERALLY tried to **** it last night. I messaged iso and said:

    ****: The Kraken

    But you making wide grandeur theories isn't good.
    Like:

    If i WAS claiming vig, you pointing that out and then being like SHHHHH.. Nooooot helping a townread on you there, buddy.



    Wait, did Rod just claim cephalopodomaniac that tries to hump squids!?
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    The Kraken seemed to affect what happened to me last night. Also, kind of bummed it ended up being DBS lynched yesterday, but we didn't get a flip, so maybe it's good?
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Bickering. Insolence. Insults. I'd expect nothing less from a group of lowlives, dedicated to plundering the high seas. But Which of them wants me gone?
    Why. Am i that bad of a captain? Did i not provide enough? I must stand my ground. I must bring this mutiny to an end. I must... stay calm


    "Okay ya scurvy dogs, listen up! The powers that be have informed me of how many TRAITORS their are. We are now one step closer to finding these land-loving scallywags, AND TOSSIN EM TO THE SHARKS. NOW QUIT YER HECKLING AND SAVE MY ******* SHIP"


    There are:
    10 town
    1 Neut
    3 scum


    Which means AZ is telling the truth.

    *throws hand up in the air and turns around" I'll be in me cabin for the night. May Poseidon grant you all clarity.

    Good enough

    Well, he could be telling the truth about being neutral, but not about how his role works. Anyways, I'm fine not lynching him today, but he can't live to his wincon.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    I will Lynch DBS, Vezo or DV, but still prefer Nancy.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    I'm going to vote DBS for being sexist.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    @DV: Are you really a girl or were you just pretending nobue was a girl? For some reason I always thought you were a guy.
    *cough* ah, a gender crisis. does it matter? there is no gender when it comes to killing each other. sure, girls are generally aggressive, but I've seen guys have short tempers too~
    (I think you're asking this question to know how to approach a supposedly sensitive person, for clarification purposes. no?)

    rule of thumb is to always treat a girl like a guy if they present themselves that way. if you treat them the opposite, a real guy will be offended, and the girl will be infuriated. win-win situation!

    disclaimer: this is a very off-game comment, isn't it?
    I don't think you did this properly and may offend gender sensitive people. You are making unnecessary stereotypes. I just want to make sure I addressed DV properly.
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