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  • posted a message on A debate with Christians: What makes you think God is actually good?
    Well when it comes down to it, all I can do is tell you that I know what I know, and banging heads on forums isn't going to go anywhere
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    And highroller, when u say god is good without evil.. ever heard of Satan?
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  • posted a message on A debate with Christians: What makes you think God is actually good?
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    Quote from Aldath »

    So, I believe there's a God, but one that cares nothing about us.


    I may have missed your point, and if so I apologize, but -- as a father of two (soon to be three), there are *many* times where I do not give my kids what they want, but instead I give them what they need. That doesn't mean I don't love them, it in fact means the opposite. I Love them enough to be willing to put their best interest before my own desire to make them happy in the short term.

    I would love nothing more than for my kids to always be smiling and happy. But, giving them candy for dinner, and avoiding the temper tantrum now is detrimental in the long run. Even though it will make them upset in the short term.
    Another who shares my logic.
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    If your life is perfect every day, all the time, you wouldn't be able to be grateful for it.
    Does this mean God wants our gratitude more than he wants us to have the best life possible? What does that say about him?
    No, I'm not saying God wants our gratitude. Im saying we couldn't enjoy life with no trials. And sorry for the typo
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  • posted a message on A debate with Christians: What makes you think God is actually good?
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    Isn't that precisely what heaven is? Perfect all of the time?


    You're thinking of regular heaven. Mormon heaven is way cooler. It's in space and you get to be a god.
    yep. Kinda
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  • posted a message on A debate with Christians: What makes you think God is actually good?
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    I am Mormon
    Why?
    I'm a Mormon. I learn it. I live it. I love it.
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  • posted a message on A debate with Christians: What makes you think God is actually good?
    God gives us trials. "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" If there is no evil, there can be no good. For example, if you ate a hot dog every day, every meal, you would wish for more. If your life is perfect every day, all the time, you wouldn't be able to be grateful for it. Its like mama from heaven to reference the bible.
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  • posted a message on A debate with Christians: What makes you think God is actually good?
    Also, as humans, we don't have a clue what is best for us. God knows all, and what might not make sense to you now, will make sense in a few eternities.
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  • posted a message on A debate with Christians: What makes you think God is actually good?
    Quote from Walker Boh »
    disclaimer, I am mormon, so I'm not sure how that has colored my thinking.


    I don't believe heaven is being one with anything, heaven is instead what I like to call "eternal progression". you are there, with your family, and your friends, and you are continually learning new things until eventually you can create your own universe and your own children and bring them to the same level of happiness that you are in.

    on the subject of asking forgiveness rather than the bike, this is how I feel it works: I ask for a bike, God will give me opportunities to earn that bike. If I pray for family unity, he isn't going to just say "o.k, your all in synch now." He will give you opportunities to build that unity. After all, we are saved by the grace of god after all that we can do. We try as hard as we can, and then God makes up the rest.

    while we do live in a rather crapsack world, that is a very pessimistic view of things. yes, there is death. yes, there is war. but that is nothing new, humans have been killing humans and being cruel to humans for all of history. Instead, focus on the positive. outlook is half of anything. The technological advances in the last few decades alone is incredible.

    Another way to look at it is: if you're going to blame God for all of the bad, you have to give him credit for the good as well.

    My shift is about to start, so I'll post more when I have time.
    . I am Mormon too, and can affirm all that was just said.
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