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Unstable Q&A with Mark Rosewater
 
The Dos and Don'ts of Silver-Border Commander
 
Word of Command: Un-believable
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    Could always go 3/3 split with Reshaper / Scooze. Essentially sacrificing synergy/power for versatility to free up board space. The 4/2 split will be better vs Tron & Titan shift I imagine were the clock & board presence is more relevant.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    I like having access to wastes as Temple is such a huge target. Even fishing it out from a PtE knowing you can then curve into TKS/Smasher has been relevant.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    Thanks for the link!
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    How'd Hissing Quagmire do? Is it worth going soft to Bloodmoon? I'm surprised it isn't around more to be honest.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    Yes! Good call on Revolt. I think 61 cards is just wrong. Too spiky of me perhaps but I do believe in tough cuts. Try option 2. The only real place for them to go is in that Blooming Marsh spot. I'm not sure whether the man-land is worth the tempo, but again testing.

    I would play a lot more if I had moto. I'm on a Mac and would need the computer and THEN the actual cards. The other option that occurred to me was to get a streamer to try out the deck since they have access to the cards. I posted it to the facebook Eldrazi group and sent the list to the Turn One Thoughtseize guys, but there wasn't much interest.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    Nice. Maybe the catacombs for the Hissing Quagmires? Given our 3rd "color" is colorless, it isn't like they fix so much anyway. Then they just fish out a basic for blood moon which seems on the decline. Worst case is GQ in response to fish out a basic if no Decay in hand when it comes down to float a green for.

    I've been hanging with wargaming friends lately so no reports from me, sorry to say.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    Quote from Akalah »
    Maybe that's just poor thinking though.


    That's just where testing comes in.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    Quote from Akalah »

    I had some mana color issues in my last couple of games which didn't prevent me from just losing but held me back enough to probably sealed my doom. I think it's just a casualty of this kind of deck. I wish there were more lands that allow for colorless AND colors. I need to pick up some twilight mire with my winnings. All in all I can't complain too much. I think I'm zoning in on an appropriate SB for my weak matchups. wish I could get more testing in but my play time is limited. Things I'm going to find room for:

    1-2 twilight mire
    1 flaying tendrils (bontu's reckoning or damnation) SB


    Was it the utility lands or not being able to find your colors? I really like Twilight Mire. 1 is ok. Temple + Mire is awkward.

    I've played that Bushwacker Zoo matchup a few times. Flaying Tendrils is the way to beat it. Another spot where I think Maelstrom Pulse can do some work over Abrupt Decay.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    23 lands with 4 Smashers seems right. With only 3, 22 lands seems fine. Treetop is a great man-land but not here. I think Quagmire is it. Sure, Mutavault, if you wanted to cut a QC or Cavern....

    Torpor Orb? Also, you were really high on Lost Legacy. Losing it doesn't seem to help the Storm matchup. I like it with only the 2 Scavenging oozes.

    How have you been liking the 3-2 Lili split with 4 main? I'm running a 4-1 split with all 5 main. Probably should trim back to 4 main.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    Ran 23 lands w Cavern. Also a 2/2 split of Matter Reshaper & Scavenging Ooze with at 3rd in the AB. Went 2-2.

    R1 - Aetherworks Marvel. I guess this was a standard port but he was also running Through the Breach. He got me G1 when I was stuck on 2 lands for 7 or turns. I got there pretty easily in the next 2. I initially thought this would be rather slow and even boarded in a Phyrexian Arena for G2. I took it out for G3.
    1-0

    R2 - Nykthos Green. This guy has been on various versions of Green Nykthos forever. He also won a PPTQ. I lost in 3 but kept a really shaky hand on a Mull to 6 in G2 and had a misplay G3. G2 was a 1 lander with an Oath and a Smasher on the Draw but no early pressure. G3, I fetched out my basics but then got stuck on swamp, forest, GQ in the mid-game long enough for him to inch ahead. He does have Blood Moon in the side but didn't bring it in. I should have fetched out a dual and I think I would have been OK. I could have used the GQ to fetch out a basic if Blood Moon came dowm.
    1-1

    R3 - Fish. I stabilized G1 but then lost to a top deck Spreading Seas. Another sketchy Keep on 6 and it punished me. Again, a fine hand but nothing going on early.
    1-2

    R4 - Storm. My opening hand was Temple, GQ, 2 Matter Reshapers, a Smasher, LotV and a Pulse. I was on the play and kept it. He had the T3 kill. G2 I just curved Discard, Goyf, TKS, Smasher and had him dead by T4. It might have been a tad greedy as I went with Smasher instead of Discard, but the kill was on board and he would have needed to go off at instant speed without one of the cost reducers. G3 I was able to get a Scooze off an Oath pretty early into double Liliana. He dropped a Blood Moon but I already had 1 basic out, GQ and Oath. I fished out my swamp with the GQ and was able to get the second Lili out because of Oath. I Surgical Extraction Past in Flames when he tapped out to storm LotV. He said he should have just scooped there but we played it out. I found green creatures and started beating down.
    2-2

    So a bit of a meh performance but totally my own fault. This deck really needs to be doing something early. I'm keeping hands with good mid to late game play and it's just not good enough. I was originally iffy on 23 lands but felt good about it as I mulled a bit and kept some 2 landers. Maybe a second GQ instead of the Cavern though. That might just be one of those Meta calls in real time depending on who happens to show up.

    EDIT: I suppose Rockdrazi it is...
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    As far as the manabase goes I always use Frank's articles as a guide:
    https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/how-many-lands-do-you-need-to-consistently-hit-your-land-drops/
    https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/frank-analysis-how-many-colored-mana-sources-do-you-need-to-consistently-cast-your-spells/

    So B on 1,
    G on 2,
    BB on 3,
    C on 4.
    And that's at 24 lands for a 70-80% chance of hitting your 4th land drop by T4. 22-23 Lands seems to be the better place to be.

    To do that you're looking at 19 black sources, 13 green sources and 11 colorless sources. Oath of Nissa certainly helps for casting Lili on 3 but I'd rather be playing a threat on T2. Although Discard + Oath after T1 Discard is a great play. I'm not sure how to evaluate Urborg, tomb of Yawgmoth here but it certainly helps. So you can cut into all that black but probably at the expense of slowing down a turn or 2. I've cut the utility land package in favor of consistency. (Part of that is that I don't get to play a whole lot and and would rather give up games to Tron and Celestial Colonnade instead of mana screw.) So maybe not greedy, but needing to make the choice at all seems demanding.

    I've been missing a suite of manlands in this deck. Unfortunately, the only real spot I see for them is swapping out the Blooming Marshes for Hissing Quagmires but I think the speed is way more important. I can see swapping out 1, maybe 2.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    HA! Birds! I was seriously looking at Birds as a 2 drop after discard in a BG Descent into Madness deck. Then I discovered Eldrazi... I guess you could do an easy swap with Oath/Stirrings. I think it's worse. Yes, you can ramp but you still need C to cast the Eldrazi which a Birds or Noble can't do. Having said that, I'm always in favor of Elves of Deep Shadow. But only the Dark art.

    To be honest, I think T1 discard is better than T2 LotV in a vacuum. But she is a great Plan B.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on Best Answer For Infect?
    Spellskite is good.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    Nice writeup. BB is probably a sideboard card. I run 2 Pulse in my 75. I think 1 is definitely legit. I've been eyeing a 3rd if the local meta ever slows down.

    I've been out of the loop for a couple of weeks. I did do some testing with 6-7 cantrips. It's too many. This is a proactive deck that really needs to be doing something Turns 1-3, not sculpting our hand. Just enough cantrips to reload, or find a threat off a top deck, is the sweet spot I think. Harmonize was brought up but I think that's going down the rabbit hole. At the end of the day I think this is a bit of a demanding, if not greedy, manabase and the ability to color fix in the first turn or 2 if needs be is solid.

    I'll be bringing this to an SCG Regional event next month. I think I need to be running a Cavern. Ceremonious Rejection is brutal.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
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